1 Kings9:9 From Original Authorized King James Version
1 Kings 9:9 And they shall answer, Because they forsook the LORD their God, who brought forth their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and have taken hold upon other gods, and have worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil.
1 Kings 9:9 And they shall answer, Because they forsook the LORD their God, who brought forth their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and have taken hold upon other gods, and have worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil.
1 Kings9:9 Strong's Hebrew~English LIT Bible:

1 Kings 9:9

  "to say/speak/utter" ~'amar  

  commit self, fail, forsake, fortify, help, leave (destitute, off), refus... ~`azab  

  "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-ho-vaw'" ~Yhovah  

  Elohiym/God/god/gods ~'elohiym  

  × after, appear, × assuredly, bear out, × begotten, break out, bring for... ~yatsa'  

  chief, (fore-)father(-less), × patrimony, principal ~'ab  

  earth ~'erets  

  Egypt, Egyptians, Mizraim ~Mitsrayim  

  aid, amend, × calker, catch, cleave, confirm, be constant, constrain, co... ~chazaq  

  another/other than/following/different ~'acher  

  Elohiym/God/god/gods ~'elohiym  

  bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obe... ~shachah  

  × be, keep in bondage, be bondmen, bond-service, compel, do, dress, ear,... ~`abad  

  "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-ho-vaw'" ~Yhovah  

  abide, apply, attain, × be, befall, + besiege, bring (forth, in, into, t... ~bow'  

  adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease(-ure), distress, evil(... ~ra`  


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1 Kings 9:9
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 ['amar]   [`azab]   [Yhovah]   ['elohiym]   [yatsa']   ['ab]   ['erets]   [Mitsrayim]   [chazaq]   ['acher]   ['elohiym]   [shachah]   [`abad]   [Yhovah]   [bow']   [ra`] 
אָמַרעָזַביְהֹוָהאֱלֹהִיםיָצָאאָבאֶרֶץמִצְרַיִםחָזַקאַחֵראֱלֹהִיםשָׁחָהעָבַדיְהֹוָהבּוֹארַע
 "to say/speak/utter" commit self, fail, forsake, fortify, h.. "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-.. Elohiym/God/god/gods × after, appear, × assuredly, bear out.. chief, (fore-)father(-less), × patrimo.. earth Egypt, Egyptians, Mizraim aid, amend, × calker, catch, cleave, c.. another/other than/following/different Elohiym/God/god/gods bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (fl.. × be, keep in bondage, be bondmen, bon.. "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-.. abide, apply, attain, × be, befall, + .. adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, ..
רַמָאבַזָעהָוֹהְיםיִהֹלֱאאָצָיבָאץֶרֶאםִיַרְצִמקַזָחרֵחַאםיִהֹלֱאהָחָׁשדַבָעהָוֹהְיאֹוּבעַר
 [rama']   [baza`]   [havohY]   [myihole']   ['astay]   [ba']   [stere']   [miyarstiM]   [qazahc]   [rehca']   [myihole']   [hahcahs]   [daba`]   [havohY]   ['wob]   [`ar] 

Strong's Dictionary Number: [559]

559

1 Original Word: אָמַר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: 'amar
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 118
5 Phonetic Spelling: aw-mar'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to say (used with great latitude):--answer, appoint, avouch, bid, boast self, call, certify, challenge, charge, + (at the, give) command(-ment), commune, consider, declare, demand, × desire, determine, × expressly, × indeed, × intend, name, × plainly, promise, publish, report, require, say, speak (against, of), × still, × suppose, talk, tell, term, × that is, × think, use (speech), utter, × verily, × yet.
8 Definition:

  1. to say, speak, utter
    1. (Qal) to say, to answer, to say in one's heart, to think, to command, to promise, to intend
    2. (Niphal) to be told, to be said, to be called
    3. (Hithpael) to boast, to act proudly
    4. (Hiphil) to avow, to avouch

9 English: "to say/speak/utter"
0 Usage: answer, appoint, avouch, bid, boast self, call, certify, challenge, charge, + (at the, give) command(-ment), commune, consider, declare, demand, × desire, determine, × expressly, × indeed, × intend, name, × plainly, promise, publish, report, require, say, speak (against, of), × still, × suppose, talk, tell, term, × that is, × think, use (speech), utter, × verily, × yet

Strong's Dictionary Number: [5800]

5800

1 Original Word: עָזַב
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: `azab
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1594,1595
5 Phonetic Spelling: aw-zab'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to loosen, i.e. relinquish, permit, etc.:--commit self, fail, forsake, fortify, help, leave (destitute, off), refuse, × surely.
8 Definition:

  1. to leave, loose, forsake
    1. (Qal) to leave
      1. to depart from, leave behind, leave, let alone
      2. to leave, abandon, forsake, neglect, apostatise
      3. to let loose, set free, let go, free
    2. (Niphal)
      1. to be left to
      2. to be forsaken
    3. (Pual) to be deserted
  2. to restore, repair
    1. (Qal) to repair

9 English:
0 Usage: commit self, fail, forsake, fortify, help, leave (destitute, off), refuse, × surely

Strong's Dictionary Number: [3068]

3068

1 Original Word: יְהֹוָה
2 Word Origin: from (01961)
3 Transliterated Word: Yhovah
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 484a
5 Phonetic Spelling: yeh-ho-vaw'
6 Part of Speech: Proper Name
7 Strong's Definition: from [01961;]01961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God:--Jehovah, the Lord. Compare [03050,]03050, [03069.]03069.
8 Definition: Jehovah = "the existing One"

  1. the proper name of the one true God
    1. unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of 0136

9 English: "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-ho-vaw'"
0 Usage: Jehovah, the Lord

Strong's Dictionary Number: [430]

430

1 Original Word: אֱלֹהִים
2 Word Origin: plural of (0433)
3 Transliterated Word: 'elohiym
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 93c
5 Phonetic Spelling: el-o-heem'
6 Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
7 Strong's Definition: plural of [0433;]0433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:--angels, × exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), × (very) great, judges, × mighty.
8 Definition:

  1. (plural)
    1. rulers, judges
    2. divine ones
    3. angels
    4. gods
  2. (plural intensive - singular meaning)
    1. god, goddess
    2. godlike one
    3. works or special possessions of God
    4. the (true) God
    5. God

9 English: Elohiym/God/god/gods
0 Usage: angels, × exceeding, God, god(-s, -dess, -ly), × (very) great, judges, × mighty

Strong's Dictionary Number: [3318]

3318

1 Original Word: יָצָא
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: yatsa'
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 893
5 Phonetic Spelling: yaw-tsaw'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to go (causatively, bring) out, in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively, direct and proxim.:--X after, appear, × assuredly, bear out, × begotten, break out, bring forth (out, up), carry out, come (abroad, out, thereat, without), + be condemned, depart(-ing, -ure), draw forth, in the end, escape, exact, fail, fall (out), fetch forth (out), get away (forth, hence, out), (able to, cause to, let) go abroad (forth, on, out), going out, grow, have forth (out), issue out, lay (lie) out, lead out, pluck out, proceed, pull out, put away, be risen, × scarce, send with commandment, shoot forth, spread, spring out, stand out, × still, × surely, take forth (out), at any time, × to (and fro), utter.
8 Definition:

  1. to go out, come out, exit, go forth
    1. (Qal)
      1. to go or come out or forth, depart
      2. to go forth (to a place)
      3. to go forward, proceed to (to or toward something)
      4. to come or go forth (with purpose or for result)
      5. to come out of
    2. (Hiphil)
      1. to cause to go or come out, bring out, lead out
      2. to bring out of
      3. to lead out
      4. to deliver
    3. (Hophal) to be brought out or forth

9 English:
0 Usage: × after, appear, × assuredly, bear out, × begotten, break out, bring forth (out, up), carry out, come (abroad, out, thereat, without), + be condemned, depart(-ing, -ure), draw forth, in the end, escape, exact, fail, fall (out), fetch forth (out), get away (forth, hence, out), (able to, cause to, let) go abroad (forth, on, out), going out, grow, have forth (out), issue out, lay (lie) out, lead out, pluck out, proceed, pull out, put away, be risen, × scarce, send with commandment, shoot forth, spread, spring out, stand out, × still, × surely, take forth (out), at any time, × to (and fro), utter

Strong's Dictionary Number: [1]

1

1 Original Word: אָב
2 Word Origin: a root
3 Transliterated Word: 'ab
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 4a
5 Phonetic Spelling: awb
6 Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive word; father, in a literal and immediate, or figurative and remote application):--chief, (fore-)father(-less), × patrimony, principal. Compare names in "Abi-".
8 Definition:

  1. father of an individual
  2. of God as father of his people
  3. head or founder of a household, group, family, or clan
  4. ancestor
    1. grandfather, forefathers -- of person
    2. of people
  5. originator or patron of a class, profession, or art
  6. of producer, generator (fig.)
  7. of benevolence and protection (fig.)
  8. term of respect and honour
  9. ruler or chief (spec.)

9 English:
0 Usage: chief, (fore-)father(-less), × patrimony, principal

Strong's Dictionary Number: [776]

776

1 Original Word: אֶרֶץ
2 Word Origin: from an unused root probably meaning to be firm
3 Transliterated Word: 'erets
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 167
5 Phonetic Spelling: eh'-rets
6 Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
7 Strong's Definition: from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land):--X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, × natins, way, + wilderness, world.
8 Definition:

  1. land, earth
    1. earth
      1. whole earth (as opposed to a part)
      2. earth (as opposed to heaven)
      3. earth (inhabitants)
    2. land
      1. country, territory
      2. district, region
      3. tribal territory
      4. piece of ground
      5. land of Canaan, Israel
      6. inhabitants of land
      7. Sheol, land without return, (under) world
      8. city (-state)
    3. ground, surface of the earth
      1. ground
      2. soil
    4. (in phrases)
      1. people of the land
      2. space or distance of country (in measurements of distance)
      3. level or plain country
      4. land of the living
      5. end(s) of the earth
    5. (almost wholly late in usage)
      1. lands, countries 1e
    6. often in contrast to Canaan

9 English: earth
0 Usage: × common, country, earth, field, ground, land, × nations, way, + wilderness, world

Strong's Dictionary Number: [4714]

4714

1 Original Word: מִצְרַיִם
2 Word Origin: dual of (04693)
3 Transliterated Word: Mitsrayim
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1235
5 Phonetic Spelling: mits-rah'-yim
6 Part of Speech:
7 Strong's Definition: dual of [04693;]04693; Mitsrajim, i.e. Upper and Lower Egypt:--Egypt, Egyptians, Mizraim.
8 Definition: n pr loc Egypt = "land of the Copts"

  1. a country at the northeastern section of Africa, adjacent to Palestine, and through which the Nile flows adj Egyptians = "double straits"
  2. the inhabitants or natives of Egypt

9 English:
0 Usage: Egypt, Egyptians, Mizraim

Strong's Dictionary Number: [2388]

2388

1 Original Word: חָזַק
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: chazaq
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 636
5 Phonetic Spelling: khaw-zak'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to fasten upon; hence, to seize, be strong (figuratively, courageous, causatively strengthen, cure, help, repair, fortify), obstinate; to bind, restrain, conquer:--aid, amend, × calker, catch, cleave, confirm, be constant, constrain, continue, be of good (take) courage(-ous, -ly), encourage (self), be established, fasten, force, fortify, make hard, harden, help, (lay) hold (fast), lean, maintain, play the man, mend, become (wax) mighty, prevail, be recovered, repair, retain, seize, be (wax) sore, strengthen (self), be stout, be (make, shew, wax) strong(-er), be sure, take (hold), be urgent, behave self valiantly, withstand.
8 Definition:

  1. to strengthen, prevail, harden, be strong, become strong, be courageous, be firm, grow firm, be resolute, be sore
    1. (Qal)
      1. to be strong, grow strong 1a
    2. to prevail, prevail upon 1a
    3. to be firm, be caught fast, be secure 1a
    4. to press, be urgent 1a
    5. to grow stout, grow rigid, grow hard (bad sense) 1a
    6. to be severe, be grievous
      1. to strengthen
    7. (Piel)
      1. to make strong
      2. to restore to strength, give strength
      3. to strengthen, sustain, encourage
      4. to make strong, make bold, encourage
      5. to make firm
      6. to make rigid, make hard
    8. (Hiphil)
      1. to make strong, strengthen
      2. to make firm
      3. to display strength
      4. to make severe
      5. to support
      6. to repair
      7. to prevail, prevail upon
      8. to have or take or keep hold of, retain, hold up, sustain, support
      9. to hold, contain
    9. (Hithpael)
      1. to strengthen oneself
      2. to put forth strength, use one's strength
      3. to withstand
      4. to hold strongly with

9 English:
0 Usage: aid, amend, × calker, catch, cleave, confirm, be constant, constrain, continue, be of good (take) courage(-ous, -ly), encourage (self), be established, fasten, force, fortify, make hard, harden, help, (lay) hold (fast), lean, maintain, play the man, mend, become (wax) mighty, prevail, be recovered, repair, retain, seize, be (wax) sore, strengthen (self), be stout, be (make, shew, wax) strong(-er), be sure, take (hold), be urgent, behave self valiantly, withstand

Strong's Dictionary Number: [312]

312

1 Original Word: אַחֵר
2 Word Origin: from (0309)
3 Transliterated Word: 'acher
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 68a
5 Phonetic Spelling: akh-air'
6 Part of Speech: Adjective
7 Strong's Definition: from [0309;]0309; properly, hinder; generally, next, other, etc.:--(an-)other man, following, next, strange.
8 Definition:

  1. another, other, following
    1. following, further
    2. other, different

9 English: another/other than/following/different
0 Usage: (an-)other man, following, next, strange

Strong's Dictionary Number: [430]

430

1 Original Word: אֱלֹהִים
2 Word Origin: plural of (0433)
3 Transliterated Word: 'elohiym
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 93c
5 Phonetic Spelling: el-o-heem'
6 Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
7 Strong's Definition: plural of [0433;]0433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:--angels, × exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), × (very) great, judges, × mighty.
8 Definition:

  1. (plural)
    1. rulers, judges
    2. divine ones
    3. angels
    4. gods
  2. (plural intensive - singular meaning)
    1. god, goddess
    2. godlike one
    3. works or special possessions of God
    4. the (true) God
    5. God

9 English: Elohiym/God/god/gods
0 Usage: angels, × exceeding, God, god(-s, -dess, -ly), × (very) great, judges, × mighty

Strong's Dictionary Number: [7812]

7812

1 Original Word: שָׁחָה
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: shachah
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 2360
5 Phonetic Spelling: shaw-khaw'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to depress, i.e. prostrate (especially reflexive, in homage to royalty or God):--bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship.
8 Definition:

  1. to bow down
    1. (Qal) to bow down
    2. (Hiphil) to depress (fig)
    3. (Hithpael)
      1. to bow down, prostrate oneself 1c
    4. before superior in homage 1c
    5. before God in worship 1c
    6. before false gods 1c
    7. before angel

9 English:
0 Usage: bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship

Strong's Dictionary Number: [5647]

5647

1 Original Word: עָבַד
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: `abad
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1553
5 Phonetic Spelling: aw-bad'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to work (in any sense); by implication, to serve, till, (causatively) enslave, etc.:--X be, keep in bondage, be bondmen, bond-service, compel, do, dress, ear, execute, + husbandman, keep, labour(-ing man, bring to pass, (cause to, make to) serve(-ing, self), (be, become) servant(-s), do (use) service, till(-er), transgress (from margin), (set a) work, be wrought, worshipper,
8 Definition:

  1. to work, serve
    1. (Qal)
      1. to labour, work, do work
      2. to work for another, serve another by labour
      3. to serve as subjects
      4. to serve (God)
      5. to serve (with Levitical service)
    2. (Niphal)
      1. to be worked, be tilled (of land)
      2. to make oneself a servant
    3. (Pual) to be worked
    4. (Hiphil)
      1. to compel to labour or work, cause to labour, cause to serve
      2. to cause to serve as subjects
    5. (Hophal) to be led or enticed to serve

9 English:
0 Usage: × be, keep in bondage, be bondmen, bond-service, compel, do, dress, ear, execute, + husbandman, keep, labour(-ing man), bring to pass, (cause to, make to) serve(-ing) (self), (be, become) servant(-s), do (use) service, till(-er), transgress (from margin), (set a) work, be wrought, worshipper

Strong's Dictionary Number: [3068]

3068

1 Original Word: יְהֹוָה
2 Word Origin: from (01961)
3 Transliterated Word: Yhovah
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 484a
5 Phonetic Spelling: yeh-ho-vaw'
6 Part of Speech: Proper Name
7 Strong's Definition: from [01961;]01961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God:--Jehovah, the Lord. Compare [03050,]03050, [03069.]03069.
8 Definition: Jehovah = "the existing One"

  1. the proper name of the one true God
    1. unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of 0136

9 English: "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-ho-vaw'"
0 Usage: Jehovah, the Lord

Strong's Dictionary Number: [935]

935

1 Original Word: בּוֹא
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: bow'
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 212
5 Phonetic Spelling: bo
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to go or come (in a wide variety of applications):--abide, apply, attain, × be, befall, + besiege, bring (forth, in, into, to pass), call, carry, × certainly, (cause, let, thing for) to come (against, in, out, upon, to pass), depart, × doubtless again, + eat, + employ, (cause to) enter (in, into, -tering, -trance, -try), be fallen, fetch, + follow, get, give, go (down, in, to war), grant, + have, × indeed, (in-)vade, lead, lift (up), mention, pull in, put, resort, run (down), send, set, × (well) stricken (in age), × surely, take (in), way.
8 Definition:

  1. to go in, enter, come, go, come in
    1. (Qal)
      1. to enter, come in
      2. to come 1a
    2. to come with 1a
    3. to come upon, fall or light upon, attack (enemy) 1a
    4. to come to pass
      1. to attain to
      2. to be enumerated
      3. to go
    5. (Hiphil)
      1. to lead in
      2. to carry in
      3. to bring in, cause to come in, gather, cause to come, bring near, bring against, bring upon
      4. to bring to pass
    6. (Hophal)
      1. to be brought, brought in
      2. to be introduced, be put

9 English:
0 Usage: abide, apply, attain, × be, befall, + besiege, bring (forth, in, into, to pass), call, carry, × certainly, (cause, let, thing for) to come (against, in, out, upon, to pass), depart, × doubtless again, + eat, + employ, (cause to) enter (in, into, -tering, -trance, -try), be fallen, fetch, + follow, get, give, go (down, in, to war), grant, + have, × indeed, (in-)vade, lead, lift (up), mention, pull in, put, resort, run (down), send, set, × (well) stricken (in age), × surely, take (in), way

Strong's Dictionary Number: [7451]

7451

1 Original Word: רַע
2 Word Origin: from (07489)
3 Transliterated Word: ra`
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 2191a,2191c
5 Phonetic Spelling: rah
6 Part of Speech:
7 Strong's Definition: from [07489;]07489; bad or (as noun) evil (natural or moral):-- adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease(-ure), distress, evil((- favouredness), man, thing), + exceedingly, × great, grief(-vous), harm, heavy, hurt(-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief(-vous), misery, naught(-ty), noisome, + not please, sad(-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked(-ly, -ness, one), worse(-st), wretchedness, wrong. (Incl. feminine raaah; as adjective or noun.).
8 Definition: adj

  1. bad, evil
    1. bad, disagreeable, malignant
    2. bad, unpleasant, evil (giving pain, unhappiness, misery)
    3. evil, displeasing
    4. bad (of its kind - land, water, etc)
    5. bad (of value)
    6. worse than, worst (comparison)
    7. sad, unhappy
    8. evil (hurtful)
    9. bad, unkind (vicious in disposition)
    10. bad, evil, wicked (ethically)
      1. in general, of persons, of thoughts
      2. deeds, actions n m
  2. evil, distress, misery, injury, calamity
    1. evil, distress, adversity
    2. evil, injury, wrong
    3. evil (ethical) n f
  3. evil, misery, distress, injury
    1. evil, misery, distress
    2. evil, injury, wrong
    3. evil (ethical)

9 English:
0 Usage: adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease(-ure), distress, evil(-favouredness) (man, thing), + exceedingly, × great, grief(-vous), harm, heavy, hurt(-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief(-vous), misery, naught(-ty), noisome, + not please, sad(-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked(-ly, -ness) (one), worse(-st), wretchedness, wrong

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  • People from all walks of life and backgrounds of faith are welcome here, including the backslidden and nonbelievers, as well.
  • We may not all agree... but we can agree to disagree, at least.
  • However, any potential disagreements still need to remain civil in nature, and should stay as such.
  • Please, just debate the points of your position, if necessary, and refrain from ad hominem attacks. Slandering and name calling serve no productive purpose.
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