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Sounds like you\'re grinding an ax with a church leader somewhere. May I recommend you handle it the way Jesus told his disciples to deal with the offended Pharisees? \"Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. LEAVE THEM; THEY ARE BLIND GUIDES. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.\" (Matt. 15:13,14) Make your appeal to the flock and leave corrupt leadership to the wrath of God (if in fact they really are corrupt). Those who have ears to hear and eyes to see CANNOT be mislead by false--or as you call them--\"evil servants\". How can someone who sees be lead around by someone who cannot see? And that\'s Jesus\'s point exactly. He didn\'t get overly concerned about the wolves in sheep\'s clothing. Neither did Paul. They both warn us of their presence, but Paul reminds Timothy that even though false teaching \"destroy(s) the faith of some...Nevertheless, God\'s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: \'The Lord knows those who are his...\'\" (2 Tim. 2:18,19) Take comfort in that. I\'m guessing there is a lot more going on here than we readers know about. I don\'t know exactly what the contention is you\'re having with this paster in Illinois, and I don\'t want to know, but let it go and be careful to \"not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.\" (1 Tim.. 5:19). Truthfully, warning the world about a leader in faraway Urbana, IL will only serve your own purposes and not those of the world-wide body of Christ (unless he has a world-wide ministry). Don\'t resort to rebuking an elder by name on a public forum without witnesses, much prayer, and a sober investigation of your own motives. It\'s amazing how personal agendas motivate some of our so-called Christian duty. Often it is pride or envy disguised as zealous Christian duty. Let love be your guide as you examine the teachings of Christ and the example he has left recorded for us in scripture. A good example of a mis-guided agenda could be this issue of giving that Jesus addresses in the scriptures. Nobody could argue with his desire for all of us to be hilariously generous with our worldly wealth. Like other things the Lord wants us to do (witnessing, giving, praying...) someone will come along who doesn\'t struggle with one of these and is quite productive in them. So now his life\'s mission seems to be to beat the rest of us Christians over the head with what that person now feels is the essential command of the scriptures--essential because he feels it so strongly in his own life and is so good at it. It can be, for instance, a veiled form of pride. A way of boldly standing up and saying \"look what a generous giver I am\". We resort to condemnations, heaping heavy loads onto the backs of other believers, and not lifting a finger to help carry those loads. In effect saying, \"I did it, so can you!\" The self-righteous pride of glorying in one\'s service to God, as if they did it all by themselves, comes out in criticism and condemnation of those who don\'t do it like you, or to the same extent. In this example the exhortation to give, looks righteous, but is really motivated by the ugly sin of PRIDE! There is NO reward waiting for that work! Anyway, I\'ve learned alot about myself through this kind of self-examination. Maybe it will be helpful to others too--help to discern the true will of God for specific areas of our lives guided by the pure love that God has. I\'m flipping over to your words about the Luke 16 parable to learn more about the role of the rich man. I don\'t quite understand your pitch, but before I ask anymore I\'ll check out your statements, and because this page is dedicated to the parable of the talents.

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