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Judges 11:29 Then the spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he passed over Gilead, and Manasseh, and passed over Mizpeh of Gilead, and from Mizpeh of Gilead he passed over unto the children of Ammon.
Judges 11:29 Then the spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he passed over Gilead, and Manasseh, and passed over Mizpeh of Gilead, and from Mizpeh of Gilead he passed over unto the children of Ammon.
Judges11:29 Strong's Hebrew~English LIT Bible:

Judges 11:29

  wind, breath, mind, spirit ~ruwach  

  "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-ho-vaw'" ~Yhovah  

  Jephthah, Jiphtah ~Yiphtach  

  alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (o... ~`abar  

  Gilead, Gileadite ~Gil`ad  

  Manasseh ~Mnashsheh  

  alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (o... ~`abar  

  Mizpeh, watch tower ~Mitspeh  

  Gilead, Gileadite ~Gil`ad  

  Mizpeh, watch tower ~Mitspeh  

  Gilead, Gileadite ~Gil`ad  

  alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (o... ~`abar  

  son ~ben  

  Ammon, Ammonites ~`Ammown  


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Judges 11:29
[7307][3068][3316][5674][1568][4519][5674][4708][1568][4708][1568][5674][1121][5983]
 [ruwach]   [Yhovah]   [Yiphtach]   [`abar]   [Gil`ad]   [Mnashsheh]   [`abar]   [Mitspeh]   [Gil`ad]   [Mitspeh]   [Gil`ad]   [`abar]   [ben]   [`Ammown] 
רוּחַיְהֹוָהיִפְתָּחעָבַרגִּלְעָדמְנַשֶּׁהעָבַרמִצְפֶּהגִּלְעָדמִצְפֶּהגִּלְעָדעָבַרבֵּןעַמּוֹן
 wind, breath, mind, spirit "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-.. Jephthah, Jiphtah alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bri.. Gilead, Gileadite Manasseh alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bri.. Mizpeh, watch tower Gilead, Gileadite Mizpeh, watch tower Gilead, Gileadite alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bri.. son Ammon, Ammonites
ַחּורהָוֹהְיחָּתְפִירַבָעדָעְלִּגהֶּׁשַנְמרַבָעהֶּפְצִמדָעְלִּגהֶּפְצִמדָעְלִּגרַבָעןֵּבןֹוּמַע
 [hcawur]   [havohY]   [hcathpiY]   [raba`]   [da`liG]   [hehshsanM]   [raba`]   [hepstiM]   [da`liG]   [hepstiM]   [da`liG]   [raba`]   [neb]   [nwommA`] 
Strong's Dictionary Number: [7307]

7307

1 Original Word: רוּחַ
2 Word Origin: from (07306)
3 Transliterated Word: ruwach
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 2131a
5 Phonetic Spelling: roo'-akh
6 Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
7 Strong's Definition: from [07306;]07306; wind; by resemblance breath, i.e. a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively, life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension, a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions):--air, anger, blast, breath, × cool, courage, mind, × quarter, × side, spirit((-ual)), tempest, × vain, ((whirl-))wind(-y).
8 Definition:

  1. wind, breath, mind, spirit
    1. breath
    2. wind
      1. of heaven
      2. quarter (of wind), side
      3. breath of air
      4. air, gas
      5. vain, empty thing
    3. spirit (as that which breathes quickly in animation or agitation)
      1. spirit, animation, vivacity, vigour
      2. courage
      3. temper, anger
      4. impatience, patience
      5. spirit, disposition (as troubled, bitter, discontented)
      6. disposition (of various kinds), unaccountable or uncontrollable impulse
      7. prophetic spirit
    4. spirit (of the living, breathing being in man and animals)
      1. as gift, preserved by God, God's spirit, departing at death, disembodied being
    5. spirit (as seat of emotion)
      1. desire
      2. sorrow, trouble
    6. spirit
      1. as seat or organ of mental acts
      2. rarely of the will
      3. as seat especially of moral character
    7. Spirit of God, the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son
      1. as inspiring ecstatic state of prophecy
      2. as impelling prophet to utter instruction or warning
      3. imparting warlike energy and executive and administrative power
      4. as endowing men with various gifts
      5. as energy of life
      6. as manifest in the Shekinah glory
      7. never referred to as a depersonalised force

9 English: wind, breath, mind, spirit
0 Usage: air, anger, blast, breath, × cool, courage, mind, × quarter, × side, spirit(-ual), tempest, × vain, (whirl-)wind(-y)

Strong's Dictionary Number: [3068]

3068

1 Original Word: יְהֹוָה
2 Word Origin: from (01961)
3 Transliterated Word: Yhovah
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 484a
5 Phonetic Spelling: yeh-ho-vaw'
6 Part of Speech: Proper Name
7 Strong's Definition: from [01961;]01961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God:--Jehovah, the Lord. Compare [03050,]03050, [03069.]03069.
8 Definition: Jehovah = "the existing One"

  1. the proper name of the one true God
    1. unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of 0136

9 English: "The Holy Creator of the Universe yeh-ho-vaw'"
0 Usage: Jehovah, the Lord

Strong's Dictionary Number: [3316]

3316

1 Original Word: יִפְתָּח
2 Word Origin: from (06605)
3 Transliterated Word: Yiphtach
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: None
5 Phonetic Spelling: yif-tawkh'
6 Part of Speech:
7 Strong's Definition: from [06605;]06605; he will open; Jiphtach, an Israelite; also a place in Palestine:--Jephthah, Jiphtah.
8 Definition: Jephthah or Jiphtah = "he opens" n pr m

  1. a son of Gilead and a concubine and the judge who defeated the Ammonites; after the victory because of a vow taken before the battle he sacrificed his daughter as a burnt offering n pr loc
  2. a city in Judah

9 English:
0 Usage: Jephthah, Jiphtah

Strong's Dictionary Number: [5674]

5674

1 Original Word: עָבַר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: `abar
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1556
5 Phonetic Spelling: aw-bar'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to cross over; used very widely of any transition (literal or figurative; transitive, intransitive, intensive, causative); specifically, to cover (in copulation):--alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (over-)come (on, over), conduct (over), convey over, current, deliver, do away, enter, escape, fail, gender, get over, (make) go (away, beyond, by, forth, his way, in, on, over, through), have away (more), lay, meddle, overrun, make partition, (cause to, give, make to, over) pass(-age, along, away, beyond, by, -enger, on, out, over, through), (cause to, make) + proclaim(-amation), perish, provoke to anger, put away, rage, + raiser of taxes, remove, send over, set apart, + shave, cause to (make) sound, × speedily, × sweet smelling, take (away), (make to) transgress(-or), translate, turn away, (way-)faring man, be wrath.
8 Definition:

  1. to pass over or by or through, alienate, bring, carry, do away, take, take away, transgress
    1. (Qal)
      1. to pass over, cross, cross over, pass over, march over, overflow, go over
      2. to pass beyond
      3. to pass through, traverse 1a
    2. passers-through (participle) 1a
    3. to pass through (the parts of victim in covenant)
      1. to pass along, pass by, overtake and pass, sweep by 1a
    4. passer-by (participle) 1a
    5. to be past, be over
      1. to pass on, go on, pass on before, go in advance of, pass along, travel, advance
      2. to pass away 1a
    6. to emigrate, leave (one's territory) 1a
    7. to vanish 1a
    8. to perish, cease to exist 1a
    9. to become invalid, become obsolete (of law, decree) 1a
    10. to be alienated, pass into other hands
    11. (Niphal) to be crossed
    12. (Piel) to impregnate, cause to cross
    13. (Hiphil)
      1. to cause to pass over, cause to bring over, cause to cross over, make over to, dedicate, devote
      2. to cause to pass through
      3. to cause to pass by or beyond or under, let pass by
      4. to cause to pass away, cause to take away
    14. (Hithpael) to pass over

9 English:
0 Usage: alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (over-)come (on, over), conduct (over), convey over, current, deliver, do away, enter, escape, fail, gender, get over, (make) go (away, beyond, by, forth, his way, in, on, over, through), have away (more), lay, meddle, overrun, make partition, (cause to, give, make to, over) pass(-age, -enger) (along, away, beyond, by, on, out, over, through), (cause to, make) + proclaim(-amation), perish, provoke to anger, put away, rage, + raiser of taxes, remove, send over, set apart, + shave, cause to (make) sound, × speedily, × sweet smelling, take (away), (make to) transgress(-or), translate, turn away, (way-)faring man, be wrath

Strong's Dictionary Number: [1568]

1568

1 Original Word: גִּלְעָד
2 Word Origin: probably from (01567)
3 Transliterated Word: Gil`ad
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 356
5 Phonetic Spelling: ghil-awd'
6 Part of Speech:
7 Strong's Definition: probably from [01567;]01567; Gilad, a region East of the Jordan; also the name of three Israelites:--Gilead, Gileadite.
8 Definition: n pr loc Gilead = "rocky region"

  1. a mountainous region bounded on the west by the Jordan, on the north by Bashan, on the east by the Arabian plateau, and on the south by Moab and Ammon; sometimes called 'Mount Gilead' or the 'land of Gilead' or just 'Gilead'. Divided into north and south Gilead
  2. a city (with prefix 'Jabesh')
  3. the people of the region n pr m
  4. son of Machir and grandson of Manasseh
  5. father of Jephthah
  6. a Gadite

9 English:
0 Usage: Gilead, Gileadite

Strong's Dictionary Number: [4519]

4519

1 Original Word: מְנַשֶּׁה
2 Word Origin: from (05382)
3 Transliterated Word: Mnashsheh
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1217
5 Phonetic Spelling: men-ash-sheh'
6 Part of Speech: Proper Name Masculine
7 Strong's Definition: from [05382;]05382; causing to forget; Menashsheh, a grandson of Jacob, also the tribe descended from him, and its territory:--Manasseh.
8 Definition: Manasseh = "causing to forget"

  1. the eldest son of Joseph and progenitor of the tribe of Manasseh
    1. the tribe descended from Manasseh
    2. the territory occupied by the tribe of Manasseh
  2. son of king Hezekiah of Judah and himself king of Judah; he was the immediate and direct cause for the exile
  3. a descendant of Pahath-moab who put away a foreign wife in the time of Ezra
  4. a descendant of Hashum who put away a foreign wife in the time of Ezra

9 English:
0 Usage: Manasseh

Strong's Dictionary Number: [5674]

5674

1 Original Word: עָבַר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: `abar
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1556
5 Phonetic Spelling: aw-bar'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to cross over; used very widely of any transition (literal or figurative; transitive, intransitive, intensive, causative); specifically, to cover (in copulation):--alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (over-)come (on, over), conduct (over), convey over, current, deliver, do away, enter, escape, fail, gender, get over, (make) go (away, beyond, by, forth, his way, in, on, over, through), have away (more), lay, meddle, overrun, make partition, (cause to, give, make to, over) pass(-age, along, away, beyond, by, -enger, on, out, over, through), (cause to, make) + proclaim(-amation), perish, provoke to anger, put away, rage, + raiser of taxes, remove, send over, set apart, + shave, cause to (make) sound, × speedily, × sweet smelling, take (away), (make to) transgress(-or), translate, turn away, (way-)faring man, be wrath.
8 Definition:

  1. to pass over or by or through, alienate, bring, carry, do away, take, take away, transgress
    1. (Qal)
      1. to pass over, cross, cross over, pass over, march over, overflow, go over
      2. to pass beyond
      3. to pass through, traverse 1a
    2. passers-through (participle) 1a
    3. to pass through (the parts of victim in covenant)
      1. to pass along, pass by, overtake and pass, sweep by 1a
    4. passer-by (participle) 1a
    5. to be past, be over
      1. to pass on, go on, pass on before, go in advance of, pass along, travel, advance
      2. to pass away 1a
    6. to emigrate, leave (one's territory) 1a
    7. to vanish 1a
    8. to perish, cease to exist 1a
    9. to become invalid, become obsolete (of law, decree) 1a
    10. to be alienated, pass into other hands
    11. (Niphal) to be crossed
    12. (Piel) to impregnate, cause to cross
    13. (Hiphil)
      1. to cause to pass over, cause to bring over, cause to cross over, make over to, dedicate, devote
      2. to cause to pass through
      3. to cause to pass by or beyond or under, let pass by
      4. to cause to pass away, cause to take away
    14. (Hithpael) to pass over

9 English:
0 Usage: alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (over-)come (on, over), conduct (over), convey over, current, deliver, do away, enter, escape, fail, gender, get over, (make) go (away, beyond, by, forth, his way, in, on, over, through), have away (more), lay, meddle, overrun, make partition, (cause to, give, make to, over) pass(-age, -enger) (along, away, beyond, by, on, out, over, through), (cause to, make) + proclaim(-amation), perish, provoke to anger, put away, rage, + raiser of taxes, remove, send over, set apart, + shave, cause to (make) sound, × speedily, × sweet smelling, take (away), (make to) transgress(-or), translate, turn away, (way-)faring man, be wrath

Strong's Dictionary Number: [4708]

4708

1 Original Word: מִצְפֶּה
2 Word Origin: the same as (04707)
3 Transliterated Word: Mitspeh
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: None
5 Phonetic Spelling: mits-peh'
6 Part of Speech: Proper Name Location
7 Strong's Definition: the same as [04707;]04707; Mitspeh, the name of five places in Palestine:--Mizpeh, watch tower. Compare [04709.]04709.
8 Definition: Mizpeh = "watchtower"

  1. a city in the district of the Shephelah or lowlands of Judah
  2. a place in Moab on the east of the Jordan
  3. a place in Gilead
  4. a place near Mount Hermon
  5. a place in Benjamin; also 'Mizpah'

9 English:
0 Usage: Mizpeh, watch tower

Strong's Dictionary Number: [1568]

1568

1 Original Word: גִּלְעָד
2 Word Origin: probably from (01567)
3 Transliterated Word: Gil`ad
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 356
5 Phonetic Spelling: ghil-awd'
6 Part of Speech:
7 Strong's Definition: probably from [01567;]01567; Gilad, a region East of the Jordan; also the name of three Israelites:--Gilead, Gileadite.
8 Definition: n pr loc Gilead = "rocky region"

  1. a mountainous region bounded on the west by the Jordan, on the north by Bashan, on the east by the Arabian plateau, and on the south by Moab and Ammon; sometimes called 'Mount Gilead' or the 'land of Gilead' or just 'Gilead'. Divided into north and south Gilead
  2. a city (with prefix 'Jabesh')
  3. the people of the region n pr m
  4. son of Machir and grandson of Manasseh
  5. father of Jephthah
  6. a Gadite

9 English:
0 Usage: Gilead, Gileadite

Strong's Dictionary Number: [4708]

4708

1 Original Word: מִצְפֶּה
2 Word Origin: the same as (04707)
3 Transliterated Word: Mitspeh
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: None
5 Phonetic Spelling: mits-peh'
6 Part of Speech: Proper Name Location
7 Strong's Definition: the same as [04707;]04707; Mitspeh, the name of five places in Palestine:--Mizpeh, watch tower. Compare [04709.]04709.
8 Definition: Mizpeh = "watchtower"

  1. a city in the district of the Shephelah or lowlands of Judah
  2. a place in Moab on the east of the Jordan
  3. a place in Gilead
  4. a place near Mount Hermon
  5. a place in Benjamin; also 'Mizpah'

9 English:
0 Usage: Mizpeh, watch tower

Strong's Dictionary Number: [1568]

1568

1 Original Word: גִּלְעָד
2 Word Origin: probably from (01567)
3 Transliterated Word: Gil`ad
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 356
5 Phonetic Spelling: ghil-awd'
6 Part of Speech:
7 Strong's Definition: probably from [01567;]01567; Gilad, a region East of the Jordan; also the name of three Israelites:--Gilead, Gileadite.
8 Definition: n pr loc Gilead = "rocky region"

  1. a mountainous region bounded on the west by the Jordan, on the north by Bashan, on the east by the Arabian plateau, and on the south by Moab and Ammon; sometimes called 'Mount Gilead' or the 'land of Gilead' or just 'Gilead'. Divided into north and south Gilead
  2. a city (with prefix 'Jabesh')
  3. the people of the region n pr m
  4. son of Machir and grandson of Manasseh
  5. father of Jephthah
  6. a Gadite

9 English:
0 Usage: Gilead, Gileadite

Strong's Dictionary Number: [5674]

5674

1 Original Word: עָבַר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: `abar
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1556
5 Phonetic Spelling: aw-bar'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to cross over; used very widely of any transition (literal or figurative; transitive, intransitive, intensive, causative); specifically, to cover (in copulation):--alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (over-)come (on, over), conduct (over), convey over, current, deliver, do away, enter, escape, fail, gender, get over, (make) go (away, beyond, by, forth, his way, in, on, over, through), have away (more), lay, meddle, overrun, make partition, (cause to, give, make to, over) pass(-age, along, away, beyond, by, -enger, on, out, over, through), (cause to, make) + proclaim(-amation), perish, provoke to anger, put away, rage, + raiser of taxes, remove, send over, set apart, + shave, cause to (make) sound, × speedily, × sweet smelling, take (away), (make to) transgress(-or), translate, turn away, (way-)faring man, be wrath.
8 Definition:

  1. to pass over or by or through, alienate, bring, carry, do away, take, take away, transgress
    1. (Qal)
      1. to pass over, cross, cross over, pass over, march over, overflow, go over
      2. to pass beyond
      3. to pass through, traverse 1a
    2. passers-through (participle) 1a
    3. to pass through (the parts of victim in covenant)
      1. to pass along, pass by, overtake and pass, sweep by 1a
    4. passer-by (participle) 1a
    5. to be past, be over
      1. to pass on, go on, pass on before, go in advance of, pass along, travel, advance
      2. to pass away 1a
    6. to emigrate, leave (one's territory) 1a
    7. to vanish 1a
    8. to perish, cease to exist 1a
    9. to become invalid, become obsolete (of law, decree) 1a
    10. to be alienated, pass into other hands
    11. (Niphal) to be crossed
    12. (Piel) to impregnate, cause to cross
    13. (Hiphil)
      1. to cause to pass over, cause to bring over, cause to cross over, make over to, dedicate, devote
      2. to cause to pass through
      3. to cause to pass by or beyond or under, let pass by
      4. to cause to pass away, cause to take away
    14. (Hithpael) to pass over

9 English:
0 Usage: alienate, alter, × at all, beyond, bring (over, through), carry over, (over-)come (on, over), conduct (over), convey over, current, deliver, do away, enter, escape, fail, gender, get over, (make) go (away, beyond, by, forth, his way, in, on, over, through), have away (more), lay, meddle, overrun, make partition, (cause to, give, make to, over) pass(-age, -enger) (along, away, beyond, by, on, out, over, through), (cause to, make) + proclaim(-amation), perish, provoke to anger, put away, rage, + raiser of taxes, remove, send over, set apart, + shave, cause to (make) sound, × speedily, × sweet smelling, take (away), (make to) transgress(-or), translate, turn away, (way-)faring man, be wrath

Strong's Dictionary Number: [1121]

1121

1 Original Word: בֵּן
2 Word Origin: from (01129)
3 Transliterated Word: ben
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 254
5 Phonetic Spelling: bane
6 Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
7 Strong's Definition: from [01129;]01129; a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc., (like [01,]01, [0251,]0251, etc.)):--+ afflicted, age, (Ahoh-) (Ammon-) (Hachmon-) (Lev-)ite, (anoint-)ed one, appointed to, (+) arrow, (Assyr-) (Babylon-) (Egypt-) (Grec-)ian, one born, bough, branch, breed, + (young) bullock, + (young) calf, × came up in, child, colt, × common, × corn, daughter, × of first, + firstborn, foal, + very fruitful, + postage, × in, + kid, + lamb, (+) man, meet, + mighty, + nephew, old, (+) people, + rebel, + robber, × servant born, × soldier, son, + spark, + steward, + stranger, × surely, them of, + tumultuous one, + valiant(-est), whelp, worthy, young (one), youth.
8 Definition:

  1. son, grandson, child, member of a group
    1. son, male child
    2. grandson
    3. children (pl. - male and female)
    4. youth, young men (pl.)
    5. young (of animals)
    6. sons (as characterisation, i.e. sons of injustice [for un- righteous men] or sons of God [for angels]
    7. people (of a nation) (pl.)
    8. of lifeless things, i.e. sparks, stars, arrows (fig.)
    9. a member of a guild, order, class

9 English: son
0 Usage: + afflicted, age, (Ahoh-, Ammon-, Hachmon-, Lev-)ite, (anoint-)ed one, appointed to, (+) arrow, (Assyr-, Babylon-, Egypt-, Grec-)ian, one born, bough, branch, breed, + (young) bullock, + (young) calf, × came up in, child, colt, × common, × corn, daughter, × of first, + firstborn, foal, + very fruitful, + postage, × in, + kid, + lamb, (+) man, meet, + mighty, + nephew, old, (+) people, + rebel, + robber, × servant born, × soldier, son, + spark, + steward, + stranger, × surely, them of, + tumultuous one, + valiant(-est), whelp, worthy, young (one), youth

Strong's Dictionary Number: [5983]

5983

1 Original Word: עַמּוֹן
2 Word Origin: from (05971)
3 Transliterated Word: `Ammown
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1642
5 Phonetic Spelling: am-mone'
6 Part of Speech: Proper Name Masculine
7 Strong's Definition: from [05971;]05971; tribal, i.e. inbred; Ammon, a son of Lot; also his posterity and their country:--Ammon, Ammonites.
8 Definition: Ammon = "tribal"

  1. a people dwelling in Transjordan descended from Lot through Ben-ammi

9 English:
0 Usage: Ammon, Ammonites

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  • We may not all agree... but we can agree to disagree, at least.
  • However, any potential disagreements still need to remain civil in nature, and should stay as such.
  • Please, just debate the points of your position, if necessary, and refrain from ad hominem attacks. Slandering and name calling serve no productive purpose.
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