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Question: I have a question and would appreciate your answers. As we read through the Gospels we are told that the desciples were filled with the Holy spirit and that was before Jesus was crucified. Then after he was crucified he told them that they would receive the holy spirit in 50 or 40 days I forgot. Could you please tell me the difference between the two events?

Answers 1:

If you remember the disciples "before Jesus was crucified" healed people. They couldn't do this of their own accord. What was given to them was temporary because they all still had sin and the Holy Spirit had to leave from them because of it. God cannot be in the presence of Sin.

At Pentecost they received it Full Force. I think Pentecost is one of the things most Christian Movies leaves out. The Passion and the rest always ends after the 3 days and Jesus being raised but Pentecost was the completion of the entire story.

Nobody is saved until they receive the Holy Spirit. That is what separates the Goats from the Sheep that Jesus spoke about. The Sheep has the Holy Spirit and that Righteousness is what God sees in one who is saved.

My Righteousness and yours, and everybody elses would send us to Hell!
We all deserve nothing better.

But what God sees when looking at one who is saved is only the Righteousness of His Spirit(Son) in us, that Spirit is what Jesus was created as sorta Son(Human Understanding) to receive and to pass onto us by taking My sin onto His son. It's not the entire World's Sin but just Mine, each one by ourselves.

When I accepted His pain and death in replace of what I deserve, it was God who sent His Spirit to be inside of me. It's called being humble and looking at yourself in the mirror(God's Purity) and accepting the truth of what I am. I am a sinner who deserves to Burn in Hell forever! Nothing I can ever ever do will cover that cost.

Only God can cover my Sin and he has to do that BEFORE I die not afterwards..

Answers 2:

Luke 3:16
John answered them all, "I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."

Holy Spirit and Fire are states seperately, interesting.
First I would like to point out that the Holy Spirit dwelleth with people before Jesus came.

Numbers 11:25
Then the LORD came down in the cloud and spoke with him, and he took of the Spirit that was on him and put the Spirit on the seventy elders. When the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied, but they did not do so again.

Numbers 11:29
But Moses replied, "Are you jealous for my sake? I wish that all the LORD's people were prophets and that the LORD would put his Spirit on them!"

Judges 14:6
The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power so that he tore the lion apart with his bare hands as he might have torn a young goat. But he told neither his father nor his mother what he had done.

Now Jesus did breath the Holy Spirit on the Apostles, giving them strength to understand and believe, also enabling them to semi-forgive sins. Now the Prophets also had the Spirit dwelleth with them.

Acts 2:1-4
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost

1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

At Pentecost the Apostles are baptized with the Fire of the Holy Spirit, and after this occured they receive the full pwer and gift of the Holy Spirit. Even though the Spirit was in them at times as with the Prophets, they were baptized with the Fire of the Spirit thus they recieved the Spirit as Jesus promised and the Spirit remained with them.

Note the similarity between Penecost and the event in Numbers 11:25. Similar event like Pentecost, but it was temporary.

Isaiah 40:13
Who has understood the spirit of the LORD , or instructed him as his counselor?

The Holy Spirit wasn't fully understood by the Jews, but Jesus knew Him, as the Spirit of God also proceeded from the Father.

Question: I started looking for verses concerning the Holy Spirit and I found this:

John 20:
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit.
23 Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained."

This event happened before the Pentecost.

It says that they already received the Holy Spirit there.
Please explain this also:
What was given to them was temporary because they all still had sin and the Holy Spirit had to leave from them because of it. God cannot be in the presence of Sin.

How did you conclude this?

Answers 1:

(dwelleth with you)
Matthew 10
1. And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

Future tense about Pentecost and after(shall be in you).
Matthew 10
19. But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
20. For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Future tense about Pentecost(shall be in you)
John 7
39. But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was NOT yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.

Future tense about Pentecost(shall be in you) and present tense(dwelleth with you).
John 14
16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17. Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth Him not,
neither knoweth Him:

but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.

for He(Spirit) dwelleth with you,
and shall be IN you.

Big difference in the 2.

Acts 2
1. And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Answers 2:

John 20:
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit.
23 Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained."

It is written: And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. Matthew 9:2

Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? Mark 2:7

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38

Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained. John 20:23

The disciples did not have the power to forgive sins as Jesus Himself had, it states,"whose soever sins ye remit, not forgive!

The disciples were commanded by Jesus to remit sins, That is to say having the authority to baptize FOR the remissions of sins, and not direct forgiveness of sins in which only God Himself can do, so you see the difference between the authority of Jesus having the power to forgive sins and the disciples instruction by the Lord to baptize FOR the remmission of sins.

It is written:Matthew 9:6 - But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

Power on earth to forgive sins:{ON EARTH}Meaning as in the flesh, God manifesting himself in the flesh having the authority to forgive sins. Only with the approval of God can ones sins be forgiven, and as Jesus being the Word of God{Speaking for God with an audible voice}has power ON EARTH to forgive sins.

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