Rapture Comments

  Posted by x_m_m_x_ on Sunday, April 17 7:39 pm

The english word "rapture" is not found in the bible, but the Greek word for 'rapture' is "harpazo", and it means to be "caught up", and it is in 1 Thess. 4:17, but that does not happen until "immediately after the tribulation" as Jesus said in Matt. 24:29, and the tribulation ends at the 7th trumpet, and since the 7th trumpet is the last trumpet in Revelation, and since "last" means last, that "last trump" in 1 Cor. 15:52 is that 7th trumpet, and since this so called rapture happens at the first resurrection, and since the 1 resurrection is mentioned in Rev. chapter 20, again, it is after the tribulation. There are 7 trumpets, and the first six signal the plaques to be poured out, and the 7th trumpet as it is called in Revelation, is called "great sound of a trumpet" as Jesus called it in Matt. 24:31, and it is called "last trump" in 1 Cor. 15:52, and it is called "trump of God" in 1 Thess. 4:16, and they are refer to the same trumpet in Rev. {7th}

The Greek word for "coming" as in reference to the coming of the Lord is "parousia", and it means "arrival and presence", the Lord arrives to establish His kingdom and of course He is present. Most pre-tribbers use the following verses to try to prove their point, but if they knew the Greek, they would know that none of these verses are refering to some rapture 7 years before Jesus returns to set up His kingdom. The verses are,
1 Cor.15:23
1 Thess. 3:13
1 Thess. 4:15
1 Thess. 5:23
2 Thess.2:1
2 Thess. 2:8
James 5:7,8
2 Peter 1:16
2 Peter 3:4,12
1 John 2:28

None of the above verses is refering to a pre-trib. rapture, because as I stated, the Greek word used in these verses is "parousia", {arrival and presence} and the Lord does not arrive to establish His kingdom at some so called rapture 7 years before. Nowhere in the bible does it say that the Church will be removed before the tribulation. The "rapture" is refered to as "gather together" by Jesus in Matt. 24:31, and it is refered to as "gathering together" by the apostle Paul in 2 Thess. 2:1, and the coming of the Lord {parousia}, and the gathering together unto him ["rapture"] is both mentioned by Paul in the same verse {2Thess. 2:1}, and the coming and the gathering in verse 1 are not seperated by 7 years.

That "come up hither" in Rev. 4 is not the rapture of the Church either as a lot of christians believe, that ought to be obvious. I believe that after the two witnesses are told to come up hither in Rev. 11:12, that is when we go up, not the come up hither in Rev. 4. The pre-trib. rapture is a false teaching, it is a con of the devil to catch christians off guard, and I was one of the ones who used to believe in that false teaching only because I was taught it, and I believed it without question until another preacher showed me, plus I checked and really studied on my own. Thank God I know better now.

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