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Dear Friends, Ecxuse me please, let me attract your attention my interesting observation about the Holy Spirit in the New Testament, when Jesus Christ baptized. There is in the Luke 3:22 we see the next: \"And the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon Him\" (Luke 3:22). There is the Holy Scripture said, that the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily shape like a dove, not in a dove shape. Everywhere in the Holy Scripture we see only \"like a dove\", and nowhere \"in a dove shape\". (Matthew 3:16, Mark 1:10, John 1:32). It is possible to descend in any shape like a dove, but there is in a dove shape is only in a dove shape. And the phrase “like a dove” is meaning, that it is not a dove. For example, “ like a man” is meaning, that it is not a man. Why two thousands years all artists in the episode of baptism of Jesus Christ are drawing the dove, and there are in the many theologize works we see the words \"in a dove shape\"? Please see the pictures of well-known artist, and you will see the dove. And there is in all temple you will see the dove. \"And the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon Him\" (Luke 3:22), not \"in a dove shape\". (Please see the attached file Image_6). \"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men\" (Matthew 12;31). Excuse me please my mistakes in English, I am sorry, I don\'t speak English. Thank you. God bless you, Vladimir Rumyantsev St. Petersburg, Russia, E-mail: bigroad@olvex.ru Son of God – King of the Old Testament Many assert, that Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God, but that He is not the God, completely ignoring that fact, that under law of Moses the Son of God means only one – “equal to the God” and “the God, as well as His Father”. Verses of the Holy Scripture where Jews condemn Jesus Christ that He names himself Son of God testify to it: “Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God” (John. 5:18); “The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God” (John. 10:33). Therefore any person who declares itself, that he is the Son of God, under law Moses makes itself equal to the God, makes itself by the God, naming the Father of the God, that under law Moses is classified as blasphemy, and adequately death what of Jews and have declared Pontius Pilate, condemning Jesus Christ on death: “The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and according to our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God” (John. 19:7). From what follows, that if Lord Jesus Christ is not the God as well as His Father Jews have acted fairly, having condemned Jesus Christ on death. Who today will dare to make the similar application? Law of Moses speaks that Lord Jesus Christ is the true Son God, equal to the God and the God, as well as His Father. Words “sons of God” in relation to the man in the Holy Scripture specify that it sons of God on good fortune, instead of by the nature as Jesus Christ, and to confuse these two concepts is inadmissible: “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God” (Romans 8:14); “nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the Angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection” (Luke 20:36). And only Jesus Christ is Son God by the nature, is equal to the God and the God, as well as His Father: “For to which of the Angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, today I have begotten You?” (Hebrews 1:5). “I have made the earth, and created man on it” (Isaiah 45:12) Sons of God are creature of God, but only Jesus Christ is begotten Son, not created. God the Father and the Son of God Jesus Christ are the two separate Persons having the nature of the God, and to mix the Father and the Son in one Person is inadmissible. The God is one, but the Persons having the nature of the God, not one. “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one” (Deuteronomy 6:4); “I will announce the definition: God has told to Me: You are My Son, today I have begotten You” (Psalm 2:7). Set of these two verses gives the full basis to name Lord Jesus Christ “one more Person”, having the nature of the God. To name Jesus Christ “one more God” in aggregate with told in Deuteronomy 6:4 “the Lord is one” - means to contradict to definition of God, what Jesus Christ announced in Psalm 2:7. From what follows, that the “God is one” is definition of God, which the Son of God in 7-th verse of 2-nd Psalm has solemnly declared. “I will announce the definition’ - the words of 7-th verse of 2-nd Psalm to which today it is not given any value, as if these words in the Holy Scripture is not present. But these words in the Holy Scripture are, and they are told by somebody, but Lord Jesus Christ, and they have the most direct attitude to the nature of the God. At reading the Holy Scripture at the person the impression is created, that on behalf of the God in the Old Testament is submitted speaking only one Person, God the Father, but at close examination it is simple to define, that it is far from being so. “God said to Moses, “I am Who I am (Jehovah)”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I am has sent me to you. » (Exodus 3:14). Who is submitted speaking in the Exodus 3:14 Father, the Son or Holy Spirit? Today practically everyone, not reflecting will answer, that it is the God the Father while except for the Father speaking can be submitted both the Son and Holy Spirit. Let\'s result a verse of the Old Testament in which Father is submitted speaking only: “Thus says God the Lord, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and its offspring, who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it,” (Isaiah 42:5). Verses of the Old Testament in which the Son is submitted speaking only: “Surely My hand founded the earth, and My right hand spread out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand together” (Isaiah 48:13); “You are My witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, and there will be none after Me” (Isaiah 43:10,11); Verse of the Old Testament in which it is submitted speaking only Holy Spirit: “The Lord said to Moses, “How long will this people spurn Me” (Numbers 14:11). About a verse in which it is submitted speaking Holy Spirit, prophet Isaiah has mentioned: “But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit;” (Isaiah 63:10). The special attention should be turned on verses of the Old Testament in which the word “King” in relation to the God because in all these verses King is only the Son of God Lord Jesus Christ about what the God the Father has told to us in 6-th verse of 2-nd psalm is mentioned: “Yet I have set My King on My holy hill of Zion” (Psalm 2:6). Therefore further in all verses in the Old Testament in the Holy Scripture where the word “King” in relation to the God is mentioned the Son, not Father and not Holy Spirit is submitted, and to confuse these concepts besides is inadmissible: “I am the Lord, your Holy One, the Creator of Israel, your King” (Isaiah 43:15); Speaking only about the Father, we speak about the one God, speaking only about the Son, we speak about the one God, speaking only about the Holy Spirit, we speak about the one God, speaking about the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, we speak about the one God, but not about one Person. That is why King is only one Person, the Son, and to name King of the Father or Holy Spirit, it means to suppose mixture of Persons that to make it is impossible. The Son of God is the one God, eternal King: “In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon the throne, high and lifted up, and His train filled the temple. Then said I, Woe is me! For I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts” (Isaiah 6:1,5). “These things said Isaiah, when he saw His glory, and spoke of Him” (John 12:41), about Son of God, Lord Jesus Christ, King, Lord of hosts. “And about the Son: You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands” (Hebrews. 1:8,10); “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, lowly and riding on a donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey” (Zechariah 9:9); “And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be. “The Lord is one,” And His name one” (Zechariah 14:9); “Then the King will say to those on His right hand, \"Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world” (Matthew 25:34); “Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the cross. It was written, “Jesus the Nazarene, the King of the Jews” (John 19:19); “These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful” (Revelation 17:14); “And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: King of kings and Lord of lords” (Revelation 19:16). “Your arrows are sharp in the heart of the King\'s enemies; the peoples fall under You” (Psalm 45:5); “For the Lord Most High is awesome; He is a great King over all the earth” (Psalm 47:2); “Sing praises to God, sing praises! Sing praises to our King, sing praises! For God is the King of all the earth; Sing praises with understanding” (Psalm 47:6,7); “For the LORD is the great God, and the great King above all gods” (Psalm 95:3); “Your eyes will see the King in His beauty; they will see the land that is very far off» (Isaiah 33:17); “Lift up your heads, O you gates! And be lifted up, you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O you gates! Lift up, you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, He is the King of glory” (Psalm 24:7-10). “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up in glory” (1 Timothy 3:16). “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19). Vladimir Rumyantsev E-mail: bigroad@olvex.ru

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