Genesis19:9 From Original Authorized King James Version
Genesis 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
Genesis 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
Genesis19:9 Strong's Hebrew~English LIT Bible:

Genesis 19:9

  "to say/speak/utter" ~'amar  

  (make to) approach (nigh), bring (forth, hither, near), (cause to) come ... ~nagash  

  back, beyond, (hence-)forward, hitherto, thence, forth, yonder ~halah  

  "to say/speak/utter" ~'amar  

  a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)... ~'echad  

  abide, apply, attain, × be, befall, + besiege, bring (forth, in, into, t... ~bow'  

  abide, assemble, be afraid, dwell, fear, gather (together), inhabitant, ... ~guwr  

  + avenge, × that condemn, contend, defend, execute (judgment), (be a) ju... ~shaphat  

  + avenge, × that condemn, contend, defend, execute (judgment), (be a) ju... ~shaphat  

  afflict, associate selves (by mistake for H7462), break (down, in pieces... ~ra`a`  

  press, urge, stubbornness ~patsar  

  diligently, especially, exceeding(-ly), far, fast, good, great(-ly), × l... ~m`od  

  human being, person ~'iysh  

  Lot ~Lowt  

  (make to) approach (nigh), bring (forth, hither, near), (cause to) come ... ~nagash  

  break (down, off, in pieces, up), broken(-hearted), bring to the birth, ... ~shabar  

  door (two-leaved), gate, leaf, lid ~deleth  


Samekhi's Hebrew LTR-RTL Greek Hebrew Bible Project
Genesis 19:9
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 ['amar]   [nagash]   [halah]   ['amar]   ['echad]   [bow']   [guwr]   [shaphat]   [shaphat]   [ra`a`]   [patsar]   [m`od]   ['iysh]   [Lowt]   [nagash]   [shabar]   [deleth] 
אָמַרנָגַשׁהָלְאָהאָמַראֶחָדבּוֹאגּוּרשָׁפַטשָׁפַטרָעַעפָּצַרמְאֹדאִישׁלוֹטנָגַשׁשָׁבַרדֶּלֶת
 "to say/speak/utter" (make to) approach (nigh), bring (fort.. back, beyond, (hence-)forward, hithert.. "to say/speak/utter" a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(.. abide, apply, attain, × be, befall, + .. abide, assemble, be afraid, dwell, fea.. + avenge, × that condemn, contend, def.. + avenge, × that condemn, contend, def.. afflict, associate selves (by mistake .. press, urge, stubbornness diligently, especially, exceeding(-ly).. human being, person Lot (make to) approach (nigh), bring (fort.. break (down, off, in pieces, up), brok.. door (two-leaved), gate, leaf, lid
רַמָאׁשַגָנהָאְלָהרַמָאדָחֶאאֹוּברּוּגטַפָׁשטַפָׁשעַעָררַצָּפדֹאְמׁשיִאטֹולׁשַגָנרַבָׁשתֶלֶּד
 [rama']   [hsagan]   [halah]   [rama']   [dahce']   ['wob]   [rwug]   [tahpahs]   [tahpahs]   [`a`ar]   [rastap]   [do`m]   [hsyi']   [twoL]   [hsagan]   [rabahs]   [hteled] 

Strong's Dictionary Number: [559]

559

1 Original Word: אָמַר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: 'amar
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 118
5 Phonetic Spelling: aw-mar'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to say (used with great latitude):--answer, appoint, avouch, bid, boast self, call, certify, challenge, charge, + (at the, give) command(-ment), commune, consider, declare, demand, × desire, determine, × expressly, × indeed, × intend, name, × plainly, promise, publish, report, require, say, speak (against, of), × still, × suppose, talk, tell, term, × that is, × think, use (speech), utter, × verily, × yet.
8 Definition:

  1. to say, speak, utter
    1. (Qal) to say, to answer, to say in one's heart, to think, to command, to promise, to intend
    2. (Niphal) to be told, to be said, to be called
    3. (Hithpael) to boast, to act proudly
    4. (Hiphil) to avow, to avouch

9 English: "to say/speak/utter"
0 Usage: answer, appoint, avouch, bid, boast self, call, certify, challenge, charge, + (at the, give) command(-ment), commune, consider, declare, demand, × desire, determine, × expressly, × indeed, × intend, name, × plainly, promise, publish, report, require, say, speak (against, of), × still, × suppose, talk, tell, term, × that is, × think, use (speech), utter, × verily, × yet

Strong's Dictionary Number: [5066]

5066

1 Original Word: נָגַשׁ
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: nagash
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1297
5 Phonetic Spelling: naw-gash'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to be or come (causatively, bring) near (for any purpose); euphemistically, to lie with a woman; as an enemy, to attack; relig. to worship; causatively, to present; figuratively, to adduce an argument; by reversal, to stand back:--(make to) approach (nigh), bring (forth, hither, near), (cause to) come (hither, near, nigh), give place, go hard (up), (be, draw, go) near (nigh), offer, overtake, present, put, stand.
8 Definition:

  1. to draw near, approach
    1. (Qal) to draw or come near
      1. of humans 1a
    2. of sexual intercourse
      1. of inanimate subject 1a
    3. to approach one another
    4. (Niphal) to draw near
    5. (Hiphil) to cause to approach, bring near, bring
    6. (Hophal) to be brought near
    7. (Hithpael) to draw near

9 English:
0 Usage: (make to) approach (nigh), bring (forth, hither, near), (cause to) come (hither, near, nigh), give place, go hard (up), (be, draw, go) near (nigh), offer, overtake, present, put, stand

Strong's Dictionary Number: [1973]

1973

1 Original Word: הָלְאָה
2 Word Origin: from the primitive form of the article [hal]
3 Transliterated Word: halah
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 496a
5 Phonetic Spelling: haw-leh-aw'
6 Part of Speech: Adverb
7 Strong's Definition: from the primitive form of the article (hal); to the distance, i.e. far away; also (of time) thus far:--back, beyond, (hence,-)forward, hitherto, thence,forth, yonder.
8 Definition:

  1. out there, onwards, further
    1. yonder, beyond (of place)
    2. onwards (of time)

9 English:
0 Usage: back, beyond, (hence-)forward, hitherto, thence, forth, yonder

Strong's Dictionary Number: [559]

559

1 Original Word: אָמַר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: 'amar
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 118
5 Phonetic Spelling: aw-mar'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to say (used with great latitude):--answer, appoint, avouch, bid, boast self, call, certify, challenge, charge, + (at the, give) command(-ment), commune, consider, declare, demand, × desire, determine, × expressly, × indeed, × intend, name, × plainly, promise, publish, report, require, say, speak (against, of), × still, × suppose, talk, tell, term, × that is, × think, use (speech), utter, × verily, × yet.
8 Definition:

  1. to say, speak, utter
    1. (Qal) to say, to answer, to say in one's heart, to think, to command, to promise, to intend
    2. (Niphal) to be told, to be said, to be called
    3. (Hithpael) to boast, to act proudly
    4. (Hiphil) to avow, to avouch

9 English: "to say/speak/utter"
0 Usage: answer, appoint, avouch, bid, boast self, call, certify, challenge, charge, + (at the, give) command(-ment), commune, consider, declare, demand, × desire, determine, × expressly, × indeed, × intend, name, × plainly, promise, publish, report, require, say, speak (against, of), × still, × suppose, talk, tell, term, × that is, × think, use (speech), utter, × verily, × yet

Strong's Dictionary Number: [259]

259

1 Original Word: אֶחָד
2 Word Origin: a numeral from (0258)
3 Transliterated Word: 'echad
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 61
5 Phonetic Spelling: ekh-awd'
6 Part of Speech: Adjective
7 Strong's Definition: a numeral from [0258;]0258; properly, united, i.e. one; or (as an ordinal) first:--a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together,
8 Definition:

  1. one (number)
    1. one (number)
    2. each, every
    3. a certain
    4. an (indefinite article)
    5. only, once, once for all
    6. one...another, the one...the other, one after another, one by one
    7. first
    8. eleven (in combination), eleventh (ordinal)

9 English:
0 Usage: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together

Strong's Dictionary Number: [935]

935

1 Original Word: בּוֹא
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: bow'
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 212
5 Phonetic Spelling: bo
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to go or come (in a wide variety of applications):--abide, apply, attain, × be, befall, + besiege, bring (forth, in, into, to pass), call, carry, × certainly, (cause, let, thing for) to come (against, in, out, upon, to pass), depart, × doubtless again, + eat, + employ, (cause to) enter (in, into, -tering, -trance, -try), be fallen, fetch, + follow, get, give, go (down, in, to war), grant, + have, × indeed, (in-)vade, lead, lift (up), mention, pull in, put, resort, run (down), send, set, × (well) stricken (in age), × surely, take (in), way.
8 Definition:

  1. to go in, enter, come, go, come in
    1. (Qal)
      1. to enter, come in
      2. to come 1a
    2. to come with 1a
    3. to come upon, fall or light upon, attack (enemy) 1a
    4. to come to pass
      1. to attain to
      2. to be enumerated
      3. to go
    5. (Hiphil)
      1. to lead in
      2. to carry in
      3. to bring in, cause to come in, gather, cause to come, bring near, bring against, bring upon
      4. to bring to pass
    6. (Hophal)
      1. to be brought, brought in
      2. to be introduced, be put

9 English:
0 Usage: abide, apply, attain, × be, befall, + besiege, bring (forth, in, into, to pass), call, carry, × certainly, (cause, let, thing for) to come (against, in, out, upon, to pass), depart, × doubtless again, + eat, + employ, (cause to) enter (in, into, -tering, -trance, -try), be fallen, fetch, + follow, get, give, go (down, in, to war), grant, + have, × indeed, (in-)vade, lead, lift (up), mention, pull in, put, resort, run (down), send, set, × (well) stricken (in age), × surely, take (in), way

Strong's Dictionary Number: [1481]

1481

1 Original Word: גּוּר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: guwr
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 330,332
5 Phonetic Spelling: goor
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; properly, to turn aside from the road (for a lodging or any other purpose), i.e. sojourn (as a guest); also to shrink, fear (as in a strange place); also to gather for hostility (as afraid):--abide, assemble, be afraid, dwell, fear, gather (together), inhabitant, remain, sojourn, stand in awe, (be) stranger, × surely.
8 Definition:

  1. to sojourn, abide, dwell in, dwell with, remain, inhabit, be a stranger, be continuing, surely
    1. (Qal)
      1. to sojourn, dwell for a time
      2. to abide, stay, temporarily dwell
    2. (Hithpolel)
      1. to seek hospitality with
      2. to assemble oneself
  2. to stir up trouble, strife, quarrel, gather together
    1. (Qal)
      1. to stir up strife
      2. to quarrel
    2. (Hithpolel) to excite oneself
  3. to dread, fear, stand in awe, be afraid
    1. (Qal)
      1. to fear, be afraid
      2. to be in awe, stand in awe

9 English:
0 Usage: abide, assemble, be afraid, dwell, fear, gather (together), inhabitant, remain, sojourn, stand in awe, (be) stranger, × surely

Strong's Dictionary Number: [8199]

8199

1 Original Word: שָׁפַט
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: shaphat
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 2443
5 Phonetic Spelling: shaw-fat'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to judge, i.e. pronounce sentence (for or against); by implication, to vindicate or punish; by extenssion, to govern; passively, to litigate (literally or figuratively):--+ avenge, × that condemn, contend, defend, execute (judgment), (be a) judge(-ment), × needs, plead, reason, rule.
8 Definition:

  1. to judge, govern, vindicate, punish
    1. (Qal)
      1. to act as law-giver or judge or governor (of God, man) 1a
    2. to rule, govern, judge
      1. to decide controversy (of God, man)
      2. to execute judgment 1a
    3. discriminating (of man) 1a
    4. vindicating 1a
    5. condemning and punishing 1a
    6. at theophanic advent for final judgment
    7. (Niphal)
      1. to enter into controversy, plead, have controversy together
      2. to be judged
    8. (Poel) judge, opponent-at-law (participle)

9 English:
0 Usage: + avenge, × that condemn, contend, defend, execute (judgment), (be a) judge(-ment), × needs, plead, reason, rule

Strong's Dictionary Number: [8199]

8199

1 Original Word: שָׁפַט
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: shaphat
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 2443
5 Phonetic Spelling: shaw-fat'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to judge, i.e. pronounce sentence (for or against); by implication, to vindicate or punish; by extenssion, to govern; passively, to litigate (literally or figuratively):--+ avenge, × that condemn, contend, defend, execute (judgment), (be a) judge(-ment), × needs, plead, reason, rule.
8 Definition:

  1. to judge, govern, vindicate, punish
    1. (Qal)
      1. to act as law-giver or judge or governor (of God, man) 1a
    2. to rule, govern, judge
      1. to decide controversy (of God, man)
      2. to execute judgment 1a
    3. discriminating (of man) 1a
    4. vindicating 1a
    5. condemning and punishing 1a
    6. at theophanic advent for final judgment
    7. (Niphal)
      1. to enter into controversy, plead, have controversy together
      2. to be judged
    8. (Poel) judge, opponent-at-law (participle)

9 English:
0 Usage: + avenge, × that condemn, contend, defend, execute (judgment), (be a) judge(-ment), × needs, plead, reason, rule

Strong's Dictionary Number: [7489]

7489

1 Original Word: רָעַע
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: ra`a`
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 2191,2192
5 Phonetic Spelling: raw-ah'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; properly, to spoil (literally, by breaking to pieces); figuratively, to make (or be) good for nothing, i.e. bad (physically, socially or morally):--afflict, associate selves (by mistake for [07462),]07462), break (down, in pieces), + displease, (be, bring, do) evil (doer, entreat, man), show self friendly (by mistake for [07462),]07462), do harm, (do) hurt, (behave self, deal) ill, × indeed, do mischief, punish, still, vex, (do) wicked (doer, -ly), be (deal, do) worse.
8 Definition:

  1. to be bad, be evil
    1. (Qal)
      1. to be displeasing
      2. to be sad
      3. to be injurious, be evil
      4. to be wicked, be evil (ethically)
    2. (Hiphil)
      1. to do an injury or hurt
      2. to do evil or wickedly
      3. mischief (participle)
  2. to break, shatter
    1. (Qal)
      1. to break
      2. broken (participle)
      3. to be broken
    2. (Hithpolel) to be broken, be broken in pieces, be broken asunder

9 English:
0 Usage: afflict, associate selves (by mistake for H7462), break (down, in pieces), + displease, (be, bring, do) evil (doer, entreat, man), show self friendly (by mistake for H7462), do harm, (do) hurt, (behave self, deal) ill, × indeed, do mischief, punish, still, vex, (do) wicked (doer, -ly), be (deal, do) worse

Strong's Dictionary Number: [6484]

6484

1 Original Word: פָּצַר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: patsar
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1801
5 Phonetic Spelling: paw-tsar'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to peck at, i.e. (figuratively) stun or dull:--press, urge, stubbornness.
8 Definition:

  1. to press, push
    1. (Qal) to push, press
    2. (Hiphil) be insolent, display pushing (arrogance, presumption)

9 English:
0 Usage: press, urge, stubbornness

Strong's Dictionary Number: [3966]

3966

1 Original Word: מְאֹד
2 Word Origin: from the same as (0181)
3 Transliterated Word: m`od
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1134
5 Phonetic Spelling: meh-ode'
6 Part of Speech:
7 Strong's Definition: from the same as [0181;]0181; properly, vehemence, i.e. (with or without preposition) vehemently; by implication, wholly, speedily, etc. (often with other words as an intensive or superlative; especially when repeated):--diligently, especially, exceeding(-ly), far, fast, good, great(-ly), × louder and louder, might(-ily, -y), (so) much, quickly, (so) sore, utterly, very (+ much, sore), well.
8 Definition: adv

  1. exceedingly, much subst
  2. might, force, abundance n m
  3. muchness, force, abundance, exceedingly
    1. force, might
    2. exceedingly, greatly, very (idioms showing magnitude or degree)
      1. exceedingly
      2. up to abundance, to a great degree, exceedingly
      3. with muchness, muchness

9 English:
0 Usage: diligently, especially, exceeding(-ly), far, fast, good, great(-ly), × louder and louder, might(-ily, -y), (so) much, quickly, (so) sore, utterly, very (+ much, sore), well

Strong's Dictionary Number: [376]

376

1 Original Word: אִישׁ
2 Word Origin: contracted for (0582) [or perhaps rather from an unused root meaning to be extant]
3 Transliterated Word: 'iysh
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 83a
5 Phonetic Spelling: eesh
6 Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
7 Strong's Definition: contracted for [0582]0582 (or perhaps rather from an unused root meaning to be extant); a man as an individual or a male person; often used as an adjunct to a more definite term (and in such cases frequently not expressed in translation):--also, another, any (man), a certain, + champion, consent, each, every (one), fellow, (foot-, husband-)man, (good-, great, mighty) man, he, high (degree), him (that is), husband, man(-kind), + none, one, people, person, + steward, what (man) soever, whoso(-ever), worthy. Compare [0802.]0802.
8 Definition:

  1. man
    1. man, male (in contrast to woman, female)
    2. husband
    3. human being, person (in contrast to God)
    4. servant
    5. mankind
    6. champion
    7. great man
  2. whosoever
  3. each (adjective)

9 English: human being, person
0 Usage: also, another, any (man), a certain, + champion, consent, each, every (one), fellow, (foot-, husband-)man, (great, mighty) (good-)man, he, high (degree), him (that is), husband, man(-kind), + none, one, people, person, + steward, what (man) soever, whoso(-ever), worthy

Strong's Dictionary Number: [3876]

3876

1 Original Word: לוֹט
2 Word Origin: the same as (03875)
3 Transliterated Word: Lowt
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: None
5 Phonetic Spelling: lote
6 Part of Speech: Proper Name Masculine
7 Strong's Definition: the same as [03875;]03875; Lot, Abraham's nephew:--Lot.
8 Definition: Lot = "covering"

  1. son of Haran and Abraham's nephew who settled in Sodom and was delivered from its destruction by God

9 English:
0 Usage: Lot

Strong's Dictionary Number: [5066]

5066

1 Original Word: נָגַשׁ
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: nagash
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 1297
5 Phonetic Spelling: naw-gash'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to be or come (causatively, bring) near (for any purpose); euphemistically, to lie with a woman; as an enemy, to attack; relig. to worship; causatively, to present; figuratively, to adduce an argument; by reversal, to stand back:--(make to) approach (nigh), bring (forth, hither, near), (cause to) come (hither, near, nigh), give place, go hard (up), (be, draw, go) near (nigh), offer, overtake, present, put, stand.
8 Definition:

  1. to draw near, approach
    1. (Qal) to draw or come near
      1. of humans 1a
    2. of sexual intercourse
      1. of inanimate subject 1a
    3. to approach one another
    4. (Niphal) to draw near
    5. (Hiphil) to cause to approach, bring near, bring
    6. (Hophal) to be brought near
    7. (Hithpael) to draw near

9 English:
0 Usage: (make to) approach (nigh), bring (forth, hither, near), (cause to) come (hither, near, nigh), give place, go hard (up), (be, draw, go) near (nigh), offer, overtake, present, put, stand

Strong's Dictionary Number: [7665]

7665

1 Original Word: שָׁבַר
2 Word Origin: a primitive root
3 Transliterated Word: shabar
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 2321
5 Phonetic Spelling: shaw-bar'
6 Part of Speech: Verb
7 Strong's Definition: a primitive root; to burst (literally or figuratively):--break (down, off, in pieces, up), broken((-hearted)), bring to the birth, crush, destroy, hurt, quench, × quite, tear, view (by mistake for [07663).]07663).
8 Definition:

  1. to break, break in pieces
    1. (Qal)
      1. break, break in or down, rend violently, wreck, crush, quench
      2. to break, rupture (fig)
    2. (Niphal)
      1. to be broken, be maimed, be crippled, be wrecked
      2. to be broken, be crushed (fig)
    3. (Piel) to shatter, break
    4. (Hiphil) to cause to break out, bring to the birth
    5. (Hophal) to be broken, be shattered

9 English:
0 Usage: break (down, off, in pieces, up), broken(-hearted), bring to the birth, crush, destroy, hurt, quench, × quite, tear, view (by mistake for H7663)

Strong's Dictionary Number: [1817]

1817

1 Original Word: דֶּלֶת
2 Word Origin: from (01802)
3 Transliterated Word: deleth
4 TDNT/TWOT Entry: TWOT - 431a,e
5 Phonetic Spelling: deh'-leth
6 Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
7 Strong's Definition: from [01802;]01802; something swinging, i.e. the valve of a door:--door (two-leaved), gate, leaf, lid. (In Psa. 141:3, dal, irreg.).
8 Definition:

  1. door, gate
    1. a door
    2. a gate
    3. (fig.)
      1. of chest lid
      2. of crocodile jaws
      3. of doors of the heavens
      4. of an easily-accessible woman

9 English:
0 Usage: door (two-leaved), gate, leaf, lid

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  • Web-Ministry is intended for the Glory of God.
  • Please try to be respectful of God and to be reverent toward His Word, which is the Holy Bible.
  • Some may not be Christian nor agree with Christian theology in general, but please be respectful of those that do and to Christendom in general.
  • People from all walks of life and backgrounds of faith are welcome here, including the backslidden and nonbelievers, as well.
  • We may not all agree... but we can agree to disagree, at least.
  • However, any potential disagreements still need to remain civil in nature, and should stay as such.
  • Please, just debate the points of your position, if necessary, and refrain from ad hominem attacks. Slandering and name calling serve no productive purpose.
  • Posting rules are based upon decent conduct and generally acceptable chat behavior and, also, on Christian beliefs and morals found in the Holy Bible.
  • Please refrain from using offensive language or obscenely suggestive innuendo.
  • Usernames that are not becoming of basic common decency and morality are not to be used and may possibly result in membership cancellation.
  • Refusing to follow forum rules may result in membership cancellation and possibly some or all applicable posts being deleted and if necessary... entire threads.
  • If you feel these things to be unacceptable, please find another forum to post on.Thank you.
  • dp,webmaster,Chrysoprasus,wilshine

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